Pulling the principal components out of a DimensionReducerFunction?












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Suppose I perform dimension reduction using PCA:



dr = DimensionReduction[{{1, 2, 3}, {2, 3, 5}, {3, 5, 8}, {4, 5, 
8.5}}, Method -> "PrincipalComponentsAnalysis"]


If I want to see the principal components themselves, in the original space, one thought is to use the "OriginalData" feature of the DimensionReducerFunction, on basis vectors in the new space:



In[8]:= dr[{1.0, 0.0}, "OriginalData"]
dr[{0.0, 1.0}, "OriginalData"]

Out[8]= {1.86006, 2.9998, 4.81724}

Out[9]= {3.38701, 3.01026, 5.64163}


Is this a reasonable thing to do, or am I misinterpreting how the "OriginalData" feature works? And is there a better way to pull out the principal components themselves? People often want to visualize these for various reasons.



(There are several other questions about how to solve a similar problem with the PrincipalComponents function; this is a question about a different function.)










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    $begingroup$


    Suppose I perform dimension reduction using PCA:



    dr = DimensionReduction[{{1, 2, 3}, {2, 3, 5}, {3, 5, 8}, {4, 5, 
    8.5}}, Method -> "PrincipalComponentsAnalysis"]


    If I want to see the principal components themselves, in the original space, one thought is to use the "OriginalData" feature of the DimensionReducerFunction, on basis vectors in the new space:



    In[8]:= dr[{1.0, 0.0}, "OriginalData"]
    dr[{0.0, 1.0}, "OriginalData"]

    Out[8]= {1.86006, 2.9998, 4.81724}

    Out[9]= {3.38701, 3.01026, 5.64163}


    Is this a reasonable thing to do, or am I misinterpreting how the "OriginalData" feature works? And is there a better way to pull out the principal components themselves? People often want to visualize these for various reasons.



    (There are several other questions about how to solve a similar problem with the PrincipalComponents function; this is a question about a different function.)










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      $begingroup$


      Suppose I perform dimension reduction using PCA:



      dr = DimensionReduction[{{1, 2, 3}, {2, 3, 5}, {3, 5, 8}, {4, 5, 
      8.5}}, Method -> "PrincipalComponentsAnalysis"]


      If I want to see the principal components themselves, in the original space, one thought is to use the "OriginalData" feature of the DimensionReducerFunction, on basis vectors in the new space:



      In[8]:= dr[{1.0, 0.0}, "OriginalData"]
      dr[{0.0, 1.0}, "OriginalData"]

      Out[8]= {1.86006, 2.9998, 4.81724}

      Out[9]= {3.38701, 3.01026, 5.64163}


      Is this a reasonable thing to do, or am I misinterpreting how the "OriginalData" feature works? And is there a better way to pull out the principal components themselves? People often want to visualize these for various reasons.



      (There are several other questions about how to solve a similar problem with the PrincipalComponents function; this is a question about a different function.)










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      Suppose I perform dimension reduction using PCA:



      dr = DimensionReduction[{{1, 2, 3}, {2, 3, 5}, {3, 5, 8}, {4, 5, 
      8.5}}, Method -> "PrincipalComponentsAnalysis"]


      If I want to see the principal components themselves, in the original space, one thought is to use the "OriginalData" feature of the DimensionReducerFunction, on basis vectors in the new space:



      In[8]:= dr[{1.0, 0.0}, "OriginalData"]
      dr[{0.0, 1.0}, "OriginalData"]

      Out[8]= {1.86006, 2.9998, 4.81724}

      Out[9]= {3.38701, 3.01026, 5.64163}


      Is this a reasonable thing to do, or am I misinterpreting how the "OriginalData" feature works? And is there a better way to pull out the principal components themselves? People often want to visualize these for various reasons.



      (There are several other questions about how to solve a similar problem with the PrincipalComponents function; this is a question about a different function.)







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          Here's your data:



          data = {{1, 2, 3}, {2, 3, 5}, {3, 5, 8}, {4, 5, 8.5}};
          dr = DimensionReduction[data, Method -> "PrincipalComponentsAnalysis"];


          This is not exactly a top level solution, but we can pick apart the DimensionReducerFunction and see inside (try dr[[1]] to see many internal properties).



          Looking further, in there we have a matrix:



          Transpose[dr[[1, "Model", "Matrix"]]]



          {{-0.572383, -0.577502, -0.582125}, {0.793367, -0.56945, -0.215163}}



          I think these are the components. We can try to verify:



          Transpose[Last[SingularValueDecomposition[Standardize[data], 2]]]



          {{-0.572383, -0.577502, -0.582125}, {0.793367, -0.56945, -0.215163}}






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            It doesn't look like you need the pre-multiplication by 2/Sqrt[3]; after all, any such rescaling would show itself in the singular values and not the orthogonal factors. The important thing is the shift, which Standardize of course does.
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            Good catch, I've edited the post. I can't remember what I ran into that led me to such a conclusion.
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          $begingroup$

          Here's your data:



          data = {{1, 2, 3}, {2, 3, 5}, {3, 5, 8}, {4, 5, 8.5}};
          dr = DimensionReduction[data, Method -> "PrincipalComponentsAnalysis"];


          This is not exactly a top level solution, but we can pick apart the DimensionReducerFunction and see inside (try dr[[1]] to see many internal properties).



          Looking further, in there we have a matrix:



          Transpose[dr[[1, "Model", "Matrix"]]]



          {{-0.572383, -0.577502, -0.582125}, {0.793367, -0.56945, -0.215163}}



          I think these are the components. We can try to verify:



          Transpose[Last[SingularValueDecomposition[Standardize[data], 2]]]



          {{-0.572383, -0.577502, -0.582125}, {0.793367, -0.56945, -0.215163}}






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            $begingroup$
            It doesn't look like you need the pre-multiplication by 2/Sqrt[3]; after all, any such rescaling would show itself in the singular values and not the orthogonal factors. The important thing is the shift, which Standardize of course does.
            $endgroup$
            – J. M. is slightly pensive
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          • $begingroup$
            Good catch, I've edited the post. I can't remember what I ran into that led me to such a conclusion.
            $endgroup$
            – Chip Hurst
            2 days ago


















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          $begingroup$

          Here's your data:



          data = {{1, 2, 3}, {2, 3, 5}, {3, 5, 8}, {4, 5, 8.5}};
          dr = DimensionReduction[data, Method -> "PrincipalComponentsAnalysis"];


          This is not exactly a top level solution, but we can pick apart the DimensionReducerFunction and see inside (try dr[[1]] to see many internal properties).



          Looking further, in there we have a matrix:



          Transpose[dr[[1, "Model", "Matrix"]]]



          {{-0.572383, -0.577502, -0.582125}, {0.793367, -0.56945, -0.215163}}



          I think these are the components. We can try to verify:



          Transpose[Last[SingularValueDecomposition[Standardize[data], 2]]]



          {{-0.572383, -0.577502, -0.582125}, {0.793367, -0.56945, -0.215163}}






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          • 2




            $begingroup$
            It doesn't look like you need the pre-multiplication by 2/Sqrt[3]; after all, any such rescaling would show itself in the singular values and not the orthogonal factors. The important thing is the shift, which Standardize of course does.
            $endgroup$
            – J. M. is slightly pensive
            2 days ago












          • $begingroup$
            Good catch, I've edited the post. I can't remember what I ran into that led me to such a conclusion.
            $endgroup$
            – Chip Hurst
            2 days ago
















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          $begingroup$

          Here's your data:



          data = {{1, 2, 3}, {2, 3, 5}, {3, 5, 8}, {4, 5, 8.5}};
          dr = DimensionReduction[data, Method -> "PrincipalComponentsAnalysis"];


          This is not exactly a top level solution, but we can pick apart the DimensionReducerFunction and see inside (try dr[[1]] to see many internal properties).



          Looking further, in there we have a matrix:



          Transpose[dr[[1, "Model", "Matrix"]]]



          {{-0.572383, -0.577502, -0.582125}, {0.793367, -0.56945, -0.215163}}



          I think these are the components. We can try to verify:



          Transpose[Last[SingularValueDecomposition[Standardize[data], 2]]]



          {{-0.572383, -0.577502, -0.582125}, {0.793367, -0.56945, -0.215163}}






          share|improve this answer











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          Here's your data:



          data = {{1, 2, 3}, {2, 3, 5}, {3, 5, 8}, {4, 5, 8.5}};
          dr = DimensionReduction[data, Method -> "PrincipalComponentsAnalysis"];


          This is not exactly a top level solution, but we can pick apart the DimensionReducerFunction and see inside (try dr[[1]] to see many internal properties).



          Looking further, in there we have a matrix:



          Transpose[dr[[1, "Model", "Matrix"]]]



          {{-0.572383, -0.577502, -0.582125}, {0.793367, -0.56945, -0.215163}}



          I think these are the components. We can try to verify:



          Transpose[Last[SingularValueDecomposition[Standardize[data], 2]]]



          {{-0.572383, -0.577502, -0.582125}, {0.793367, -0.56945, -0.215163}}







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          • 2




            $begingroup$
            It doesn't look like you need the pre-multiplication by 2/Sqrt[3]; after all, any such rescaling would show itself in the singular values and not the orthogonal factors. The important thing is the shift, which Standardize of course does.
            $endgroup$
            – J. M. is slightly pensive
            2 days ago












          • $begingroup$
            Good catch, I've edited the post. I can't remember what I ran into that led me to such a conclusion.
            $endgroup$
            – Chip Hurst
            2 days ago
















          • 2




            $begingroup$
            It doesn't look like you need the pre-multiplication by 2/Sqrt[3]; after all, any such rescaling would show itself in the singular values and not the orthogonal factors. The important thing is the shift, which Standardize of course does.
            $endgroup$
            – J. M. is slightly pensive
            2 days ago












          • $begingroup$
            Good catch, I've edited the post. I can't remember what I ran into that led me to such a conclusion.
            $endgroup$
            – Chip Hurst
            2 days ago










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          $begingroup$
          It doesn't look like you need the pre-multiplication by 2/Sqrt[3]; after all, any such rescaling would show itself in the singular values and not the orthogonal factors. The important thing is the shift, which Standardize of course does.
          $endgroup$
          – J. M. is slightly pensive
          2 days ago






          $begingroup$
          It doesn't look like you need the pre-multiplication by 2/Sqrt[3]; after all, any such rescaling would show itself in the singular values and not the orthogonal factors. The important thing is the shift, which Standardize of course does.
          $endgroup$
          – J. M. is slightly pensive
          2 days ago














          $begingroup$
          Good catch, I've edited the post. I can't remember what I ran into that led me to such a conclusion.
          $endgroup$
          – Chip Hurst
          2 days ago






          $begingroup$
          Good catch, I've edited the post. I can't remember what I ran into that led me to such a conclusion.
          $endgroup$
          – Chip Hurst
          2 days ago




















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