Help with Seemingly Hopeless Double Integral












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I hate to be that guy to just post an integration problem and ask how to solve it so I'll give a little relevant info



Okay, so I'm working on a physics project and my professor proposed that the following double integral could potentially solve a problem that I've used an alternative method to solve:



$$I=int_0^piint_0^rhofrac{t^2sinphileft(tcosphi-dright)}{left[t^2sin^2phi+left(tcosphi-dright)^2right]^{3/2}};dt dphi$$





  1. $rho$ is an arbitrary, strictly positive real constant


  2. $d$ is a real constant that satisfies $d>rho$


This integral's value could provide immense insight into fields of uniform, solid spherical objects, so it's actually pretty important for my work.



After some quick attempts to simplify, I decided to try some integral calculators with set values. Needless to say, the result after the first integral seemed so hopeless that I couldn't imagine simplifying and integrating again--not to mention then generalising constant inputs to their original variable form.



However, there is a strong likelihood that $I$ simplifies to one of the following two solutions:



$$text{1.This solution comes from inverse square laws}$$



$$I=frac{1}{d^2}$$



$$text{2. This solution comes from a separate computation that I did (integrals below)}$$



$$I=left(1-frac{rho^2}{5d^2}right)left[frac{3}{2rho^2}+frac{3(rho^2-d^2)}{4drho^3}lnleft(frac{d+rho}{d-rho}right)right]$$



Although it looks like these are vastly different answers, given $rho=1$ and $d=10$, you get the following outputs from $(1)$ and $(2)$:



$$1.; I=0.01$$
$$2.; Iapprox 0.01000046$$



Here's the ratio of solution (2) over (1) for $rhoin(0,1),;din(0,50)$



Solution Comparison



I tried to tackle this problem differently than my professor, and set up the following integrals to solve the problem that lead to solution $(2)$:



$$frac{9}{4rho^6}left[;intlimits_{d-rho}^{d+rho}xleft[x-frac{x^2+d^2-rho^2}{2d}right]left[frac{(x+d)^2-rho^2}{4dcdot x}right];dxright]cdotleft[;intlimits_{d-rho}^{d+rho}frac{rho^2-(x-d)^2}{2dcdot x};dxright]$$





Where you come in



If the double integral is correctly composed (which my professor felt confident with), I need someone skilled in integration to solve said double integral. I've given two possible solutions and it's probable that the answer will be one of those. If it's solution $(1)$, I know that mine will have an error and you will essentially have proved the inverse square law for gravitational and electric fields. If it's solution $(2)$, then this will be far more exciting to me but less likely. If it's neither, then there are several possible implications



BOUNTY



I'm willing to award the following bounties for solving the double integral at the beginning. Since certain solutions have stronger implications (as explained above), I'm rewarding the following bounties:




  1. +200 rep if you verify solution $(1)$

  2. +500 rep if you verify solution $(2)$

  3. +75 rep for any other solutions (note they'll have to be verified by a second user first)


QUESTIONS



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    So $phiin[0,pi]$, and $tin[0,rho]$ for some ?fixed? constant $rho$? (And the first solution seems to not depend on $rho$. Unexpected, since i can take $rho=0$.) Please fix some framework for all used constants. Things seem to be important, please just fix these details for the eye of a first reader... Help will come in some seconds... (At least numerically, this is the easiest (experimental) validation when explicit choices are given.)
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    @LanierFreeman I'm not sure if this is too helpful, but I think the result must depend on rho. If you call the integral $I= I(rho,d)$, then differentiate with rho, I got $I'= -2(frac{rho}{d})^{2}$, again, differentiated in rho. But this means that the original integral can't depend only on $d$, right?
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    – Ryan Goulden
    2 days ago






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    Yes this is the type of integration found in some older textbooks on electromagnetism; the aim would be to eventually calculate the magnetic moment of a "classical" spinning electron, say if its charge is uniformly distributed over a spherical volume of radius $d$.
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    – James Arathoon
    2 days ago








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    If it still matters, I also found the answer to be $frac{-2rho^3}{3d^2}$ by converting to rectangular.
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    – Tom Himler
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I hate to be that guy to just post an integration problem and ask how to solve it so I'll give a little relevant info



Okay, so I'm working on a physics project and my professor proposed that the following double integral could potentially solve a problem that I've used an alternative method to solve:



$$I=int_0^piint_0^rhofrac{t^2sinphileft(tcosphi-dright)}{left[t^2sin^2phi+left(tcosphi-dright)^2right]^{3/2}};dt dphi$$





  1. $rho$ is an arbitrary, strictly positive real constant


  2. $d$ is a real constant that satisfies $d>rho$


This integral's value could provide immense insight into fields of uniform, solid spherical objects, so it's actually pretty important for my work.



After some quick attempts to simplify, I decided to try some integral calculators with set values. Needless to say, the result after the first integral seemed so hopeless that I couldn't imagine simplifying and integrating again--not to mention then generalising constant inputs to their original variable form.



However, there is a strong likelihood that $I$ simplifies to one of the following two solutions:



$$text{1.This solution comes from inverse square laws}$$



$$I=frac{1}{d^2}$$



$$text{2. This solution comes from a separate computation that I did (integrals below)}$$



$$I=left(1-frac{rho^2}{5d^2}right)left[frac{3}{2rho^2}+frac{3(rho^2-d^2)}{4drho^3}lnleft(frac{d+rho}{d-rho}right)right]$$



Although it looks like these are vastly different answers, given $rho=1$ and $d=10$, you get the following outputs from $(1)$ and $(2)$:



$$1.; I=0.01$$
$$2.; Iapprox 0.01000046$$



Here's the ratio of solution (2) over (1) for $rhoin(0,1),;din(0,50)$



Solution Comparison



I tried to tackle this problem differently than my professor, and set up the following integrals to solve the problem that lead to solution $(2)$:



$$frac{9}{4rho^6}left[;intlimits_{d-rho}^{d+rho}xleft[x-frac{x^2+d^2-rho^2}{2d}right]left[frac{(x+d)^2-rho^2}{4dcdot x}right];dxright]cdotleft[;intlimits_{d-rho}^{d+rho}frac{rho^2-(x-d)^2}{2dcdot x};dxright]$$





Where you come in



If the double integral is correctly composed (which my professor felt confident with), I need someone skilled in integration to solve said double integral. I've given two possible solutions and it's probable that the answer will be one of those. If it's solution $(1)$, I know that mine will have an error and you will essentially have proved the inverse square law for gravitational and electric fields. If it's solution $(2)$, then this will be far more exciting to me but less likely. If it's neither, then there are several possible implications



BOUNTY



I'm willing to award the following bounties for solving the double integral at the beginning. Since certain solutions have stronger implications (as explained above), I'm rewarding the following bounties:




  1. +200 rep if you verify solution $(1)$

  2. +500 rep if you verify solution $(2)$

  3. +75 rep for any other solutions (note they'll have to be verified by a second user first)


QUESTIONS



If you have any additional questions feel free to ask, and thanks for reading all this!










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    – Lanier Freeman
    2 days ago






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    So $phiin[0,pi]$, and $tin[0,rho]$ for some ?fixed? constant $rho$? (And the first solution seems to not depend on $rho$. Unexpected, since i can take $rho=0$.) Please fix some framework for all used constants. Things seem to be important, please just fix these details for the eye of a first reader... Help will come in some seconds... (At least numerically, this is the easiest (experimental) validation when explicit choices are given.)
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    – dan_fulea
    2 days ago






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    @LanierFreeman I'm not sure if this is too helpful, but I think the result must depend on rho. If you call the integral $I= I(rho,d)$, then differentiate with rho, I got $I'= -2(frac{rho}{d})^{2}$, again, differentiated in rho. But this means that the original integral can't depend only on $d$, right?
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    – Ryan Goulden
    2 days ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Yes this is the type of integration found in some older textbooks on electromagnetism; the aim would be to eventually calculate the magnetic moment of a "classical" spinning electron, say if its charge is uniformly distributed over a spherical volume of radius $d$.
    $endgroup$
    – James Arathoon
    2 days ago








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    If it still matters, I also found the answer to be $frac{-2rho^3}{3d^2}$ by converting to rectangular.
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    – Tom Himler
    2 days ago
















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$begingroup$


I hate to be that guy to just post an integration problem and ask how to solve it so I'll give a little relevant info



Okay, so I'm working on a physics project and my professor proposed that the following double integral could potentially solve a problem that I've used an alternative method to solve:



$$I=int_0^piint_0^rhofrac{t^2sinphileft(tcosphi-dright)}{left[t^2sin^2phi+left(tcosphi-dright)^2right]^{3/2}};dt dphi$$





  1. $rho$ is an arbitrary, strictly positive real constant


  2. $d$ is a real constant that satisfies $d>rho$


This integral's value could provide immense insight into fields of uniform, solid spherical objects, so it's actually pretty important for my work.



After some quick attempts to simplify, I decided to try some integral calculators with set values. Needless to say, the result after the first integral seemed so hopeless that I couldn't imagine simplifying and integrating again--not to mention then generalising constant inputs to their original variable form.



However, there is a strong likelihood that $I$ simplifies to one of the following two solutions:



$$text{1.This solution comes from inverse square laws}$$



$$I=frac{1}{d^2}$$



$$text{2. This solution comes from a separate computation that I did (integrals below)}$$



$$I=left(1-frac{rho^2}{5d^2}right)left[frac{3}{2rho^2}+frac{3(rho^2-d^2)}{4drho^3}lnleft(frac{d+rho}{d-rho}right)right]$$



Although it looks like these are vastly different answers, given $rho=1$ and $d=10$, you get the following outputs from $(1)$ and $(2)$:



$$1.; I=0.01$$
$$2.; Iapprox 0.01000046$$



Here's the ratio of solution (2) over (1) for $rhoin(0,1),;din(0,50)$



Solution Comparison



I tried to tackle this problem differently than my professor, and set up the following integrals to solve the problem that lead to solution $(2)$:



$$frac{9}{4rho^6}left[;intlimits_{d-rho}^{d+rho}xleft[x-frac{x^2+d^2-rho^2}{2d}right]left[frac{(x+d)^2-rho^2}{4dcdot x}right];dxright]cdotleft[;intlimits_{d-rho}^{d+rho}frac{rho^2-(x-d)^2}{2dcdot x};dxright]$$





Where you come in



If the double integral is correctly composed (which my professor felt confident with), I need someone skilled in integration to solve said double integral. I've given two possible solutions and it's probable that the answer will be one of those. If it's solution $(1)$, I know that mine will have an error and you will essentially have proved the inverse square law for gravitational and electric fields. If it's solution $(2)$, then this will be far more exciting to me but less likely. If it's neither, then there are several possible implications



BOUNTY



I'm willing to award the following bounties for solving the double integral at the beginning. Since certain solutions have stronger implications (as explained above), I'm rewarding the following bounties:




  1. +200 rep if you verify solution $(1)$

  2. +500 rep if you verify solution $(2)$

  3. +75 rep for any other solutions (note they'll have to be verified by a second user first)


QUESTIONS



If you have any additional questions feel free to ask, and thanks for reading all this!










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I hate to be that guy to just post an integration problem and ask how to solve it so I'll give a little relevant info



Okay, so I'm working on a physics project and my professor proposed that the following double integral could potentially solve a problem that I've used an alternative method to solve:



$$I=int_0^piint_0^rhofrac{t^2sinphileft(tcosphi-dright)}{left[t^2sin^2phi+left(tcosphi-dright)^2right]^{3/2}};dt dphi$$





  1. $rho$ is an arbitrary, strictly positive real constant


  2. $d$ is a real constant that satisfies $d>rho$


This integral's value could provide immense insight into fields of uniform, solid spherical objects, so it's actually pretty important for my work.



After some quick attempts to simplify, I decided to try some integral calculators with set values. Needless to say, the result after the first integral seemed so hopeless that I couldn't imagine simplifying and integrating again--not to mention then generalising constant inputs to their original variable form.



However, there is a strong likelihood that $I$ simplifies to one of the following two solutions:



$$text{1.This solution comes from inverse square laws}$$



$$I=frac{1}{d^2}$$



$$text{2. This solution comes from a separate computation that I did (integrals below)}$$



$$I=left(1-frac{rho^2}{5d^2}right)left[frac{3}{2rho^2}+frac{3(rho^2-d^2)}{4drho^3}lnleft(frac{d+rho}{d-rho}right)right]$$



Although it looks like these are vastly different answers, given $rho=1$ and $d=10$, you get the following outputs from $(1)$ and $(2)$:



$$1.; I=0.01$$
$$2.; Iapprox 0.01000046$$



Here's the ratio of solution (2) over (1) for $rhoin(0,1),;din(0,50)$



Solution Comparison



I tried to tackle this problem differently than my professor, and set up the following integrals to solve the problem that lead to solution $(2)$:



$$frac{9}{4rho^6}left[;intlimits_{d-rho}^{d+rho}xleft[x-frac{x^2+d^2-rho^2}{2d}right]left[frac{(x+d)^2-rho^2}{4dcdot x}right];dxright]cdotleft[;intlimits_{d-rho}^{d+rho}frac{rho^2-(x-d)^2}{2dcdot x};dxright]$$





Where you come in



If the double integral is correctly composed (which my professor felt confident with), I need someone skilled in integration to solve said double integral. I've given two possible solutions and it's probable that the answer will be one of those. If it's solution $(1)$, I know that mine will have an error and you will essentially have proved the inverse square law for gravitational and electric fields. If it's solution $(2)$, then this will be far more exciting to me but less likely. If it's neither, then there are several possible implications



BOUNTY



I'm willing to award the following bounties for solving the double integral at the beginning. Since certain solutions have stronger implications (as explained above), I'm rewarding the following bounties:




  1. +200 rep if you verify solution $(1)$

  2. +500 rep if you verify solution $(2)$

  3. +75 rep for any other solutions (note they'll have to be verified by a second user first)


QUESTIONS



If you have any additional questions feel free to ask, and thanks for reading all this!







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    – Lanier Freeman
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    So $phiin[0,pi]$, and $tin[0,rho]$ for some ?fixed? constant $rho$? (And the first solution seems to not depend on $rho$. Unexpected, since i can take $rho=0$.) Please fix some framework for all used constants. Things seem to be important, please just fix these details for the eye of a first reader... Help will come in some seconds... (At least numerically, this is the easiest (experimental) validation when explicit choices are given.)
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    – dan_fulea
    2 days ago






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    @LanierFreeman I'm not sure if this is too helpful, but I think the result must depend on rho. If you call the integral $I= I(rho,d)$, then differentiate with rho, I got $I'= -2(frac{rho}{d})^{2}$, again, differentiated in rho. But this means that the original integral can't depend only on $d$, right?
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    – Ryan Goulden
    2 days ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Yes this is the type of integration found in some older textbooks on electromagnetism; the aim would be to eventually calculate the magnetic moment of a "classical" spinning electron, say if its charge is uniformly distributed over a spherical volume of radius $d$.
    $endgroup$
    – James Arathoon
    2 days ago








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    If it still matters, I also found the answer to be $frac{-2rho^3}{3d^2}$ by converting to rectangular.
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    – Tom Himler
    2 days ago




















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    Edited: Typo in the original post
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    – Lanier Freeman
    2 days ago






  • 1




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    So $phiin[0,pi]$, and $tin[0,rho]$ for some ?fixed? constant $rho$? (And the first solution seems to not depend on $rho$. Unexpected, since i can take $rho=0$.) Please fix some framework for all used constants. Things seem to be important, please just fix these details for the eye of a first reader... Help will come in some seconds... (At least numerically, this is the easiest (experimental) validation when explicit choices are given.)
    $endgroup$
    – dan_fulea
    2 days ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @LanierFreeman I'm not sure if this is too helpful, but I think the result must depend on rho. If you call the integral $I= I(rho,d)$, then differentiate with rho, I got $I'= -2(frac{rho}{d})^{2}$, again, differentiated in rho. But this means that the original integral can't depend only on $d$, right?
    $endgroup$
    – Ryan Goulden
    2 days ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Yes this is the type of integration found in some older textbooks on electromagnetism; the aim would be to eventually calculate the magnetic moment of a "classical" spinning electron, say if its charge is uniformly distributed over a spherical volume of radius $d$.
    $endgroup$
    – James Arathoon
    2 days ago








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    If it still matters, I also found the answer to be $frac{-2rho^3}{3d^2}$ by converting to rectangular.
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    – Tom Himler
    2 days ago


















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– Lanier Freeman
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So $phiin[0,pi]$, and $tin[0,rho]$ for some ?fixed? constant $rho$? (And the first solution seems to not depend on $rho$. Unexpected, since i can take $rho=0$.) Please fix some framework for all used constants. Things seem to be important, please just fix these details for the eye of a first reader... Help will come in some seconds... (At least numerically, this is the easiest (experimental) validation when explicit choices are given.)
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– dan_fulea
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$begingroup$
So $phiin[0,pi]$, and $tin[0,rho]$ for some ?fixed? constant $rho$? (And the first solution seems to not depend on $rho$. Unexpected, since i can take $rho=0$.) Please fix some framework for all used constants. Things seem to be important, please just fix these details for the eye of a first reader... Help will come in some seconds... (At least numerically, this is the easiest (experimental) validation when explicit choices are given.)
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@LanierFreeman I'm not sure if this is too helpful, but I think the result must depend on rho. If you call the integral $I= I(rho,d)$, then differentiate with rho, I got $I'= -2(frac{rho}{d})^{2}$, again, differentiated in rho. But this means that the original integral can't depend only on $d$, right?
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– Ryan Goulden
2 days ago




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@LanierFreeman I'm not sure if this is too helpful, but I think the result must depend on rho. If you call the integral $I= I(rho,d)$, then differentiate with rho, I got $I'= -2(frac{rho}{d})^{2}$, again, differentiated in rho. But this means that the original integral can't depend only on $d$, right?
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– Ryan Goulden
2 days ago




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Yes this is the type of integration found in some older textbooks on electromagnetism; the aim would be to eventually calculate the magnetic moment of a "classical" spinning electron, say if its charge is uniformly distributed over a spherical volume of radius $d$.
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– James Arathoon
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Yes this is the type of integration found in some older textbooks on electromagnetism; the aim would be to eventually calculate the magnetic moment of a "classical" spinning electron, say if its charge is uniformly distributed over a spherical volume of radius $d$.
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– James Arathoon
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If it still matters, I also found the answer to be $frac{-2rho^3}{3d^2}$ by converting to rectangular.
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– Tom Himler
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As a mathematician, I would divide by force in the numerator and denominator by $d^3$, substitute $t/d$ by something, thus reducing to the case $d=1$. But here, let it be, we conserve the homogeneous setting as a control of the computations.





We split the numerator, compute first
$$
begin{aligned}
J_1
&=
int_0^rho
dt
int_0^pi
frac
{t^2sinphicdot tcosphi}
{left[t^2sin^2phi+left(tcosphi-Dright)^2right]^{3/2}}; dphi
\
&=
int_0^rho
dt
int_0^pi
frac
{t^2(-cosphi)'cdot tcosphi}
{left[t^2-2Dtcosphi+D^2right]^{3/2}}; dphi
\
&qquadtext{ Substitution: }u=cos phi ,
\
&=
int_0^rho
dt
int_{-1}^1
frac
{t^3; u}
{left[t^2-2Dt;u+D^2right]^{3/2}}; du
\
&qquadtext{ Substitution (for $u$, fixed $t$) of the radical }v=sqrt{t^2-2Dt;u+D^2} ,
\
&qquad u=frac 1{2Dt}(t^2+D^2-v^2) , du=-frac v{Dt}; dv\ ,
\
&=
-
int_0^rho
dt
int_{sqrt{t^2+2Dt+D^2}}^{sqrt{t^2-2Dt+D^2}}
frac
{t^3; frac 1{2Dt}(t^2+D^2-v^2)}
{v^3}; frac v{Dt}; dv
\
&=
int_0^rho
t;dt
int_{D-t}^{D+t}
frac 1{2D^2}
cdot
frac {t^2+D^2-v^2}
{v^2}; dv
\
&=
int_0^rho
t;dt
;frac 1{2D^2}
left[
-(t^2+D^2)frac 1v
-1
right]_{v=D-t}^{v=D+t}
\
&=
int_0^rho
dt
;frac t{2D^2}
left[
(t^2+D^2)left(frac 1{D-t}-frac 1{D+t}right)
-
2t
right]
\
&=
int_0^rho
dt
left[
frac D{D+t}
+frac D{D-t}
-2frac{D^2+t^2}{D^2}
right]
\
&=
Dlnfrac {D+t}{D-t}
-
2rholeft(1+frac {rho^2}{3D^2}right)
.
end{aligned}
$$

Computer check for $D=2$, $rho=1$ (pari/gp code):



? D=2; r=1;
? intnum(t=0,r, intnum(s=0, Pi, t^2*sin(s)*t*cos(s) / (t^2-2*t*D*cos(s)+D^2)^(3/2) ) )
%19 = 0.030557910669552716123823807178384744388
? D*log( (D+r)/(D-r) ) - 2*r*(1+r^2/3/D^2)
%20 = 0.030557910669552716123823807178384742634
?
? D=223; r=101;
? intnum(t=0,r, intnum(s=0, Pi, t^2*sin(s)*t*cos(s) / (t^2-2*t*D*cos(s)+D^2)^(3/2) ) )
%22 = 1.9969022076015148346071622544965636670
? D*log( (D+r)/(D-r) ) - 2*r*(1+r^2/3/D^2)
%23 = 1.9969022076015148346071622544965636629




The other integral. I will integrate here first w.r.t. $t$.



$$
begin{aligned}
J_2
&=
-D
int_0^pi
dphi
int_0^rho
frac
{t^2}
{left[(t-Dcosphi)^2+Dsin^2phiright]^{3/2}}
; dt
\
&qquadtext{ and we consider separately (without the factor $-D$)}
\
J_2(phi)
&=
int_0^rho
frac
{t^2}
{left[(t-Dcosphi)^2+Dsin^2phiright]^{3/2}}
; dt
\
&=
int_{0-Dcosphi}^{rho-Dcosphi}
frac
{(u+Dcosphi)^2}
{(u^2+a^2)^{3/2}}
; du ,qquad a:= Dsinphi
.
\
&qquad
text{ Now the integrals can be computed}
\
int frac{u^2}
{(u^2+a^2)^{3/2}}
; dt
&=
-frac t{(u^2+a^2)^{1/2}}+operatorname{arcsinh} frac ta+C ,
\
int frac{u}
{(u^2+a^2)^{3/2}}
; dt
&=
-frac 1{(u^2+a^2)^{1/2}}+C ,
\
int frac{1}
{(u^2+a^2)^{3/2}}
; dt
&=
-frac {a^2;u}{(u^2+a^2)^{1/2}}+C ,
end{aligned}
$$

and the computation goes on.
If my calculus is ok, then
$$
begin{aligned}
J_2(phi)
&=
int_0^pi
dphi;
Bigg[
operatorname{arcsinh} frac{t-Dcos phi}{Dsinphi}
\&qquadqquadqquad+
frac{t-Dcosphi}{(t^2-2Dtcosphi+D^2)^{1/2}sin^2phi}
\&qquadqquadqquadqquadqquadqquad
+frac2{(t^2-2Dtcosphi+D^2)^{1/2}}
Bigg]_0^rho .
end{aligned}
$$

I have to submit, hope this is helpful to check with the own computations.
I'll be back, but typing kills a lot of time.






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    Shouldn't the integrand in $J_2$ be $t^2 sin phi/((t - D cos phi)^2 + D^2 sin^2 phi)^{3/2}$?
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Hint:



With the change of variable $u=cosphi$, the integral on $phi$ becomes



$$int_{-1}^1frac{t^2(tu-d)}{sqrt{(u-dt)^2+d^2(1-t^2)}}du.$$



By decomposition of the numerator, you will get a term



$$c(t)log((u-dt)^2+d^2(1-t^2))$$



and another



$$c'(t)arctanfrac{u-dt}{dsqrt{1-t^2}}.$$



These terms do not simplify at the bounds of the integration interval.



The integral on $t$ (cubic in $t$ at the denominator) is worse. I am not optimisitc about existence of a closed-form.






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    begin{align*}
    &iint frac{t^2 sin(phi) (t cos(phi) - d)}{(t^2 sin^2(phi) + (t cos(phi) - d)^2)^{3/2}} ,mathrm{d}t,mathrm{d}phi \
    &= frac{sqrt{d^2 + t^2 - 2 d t cos(phi)}(d^2 - 2 t^2 - 2 d t cos(phi) - 3 d^2 cos(2 phi))}{6d^2} \
    &+ d cos(phi) lnleft(t - d cos(phi) + sqrt{d^2 + t^2 - 2 d t cos(phi)}right) sin^2(phi) text{,} end{align*}

    as one can readily verify. Then $I = frac{-2 rho^3}{3 d^2}$.



    I think for your case $1$, you mean $I propto frac{1}{d^2}$. The integral can't be positive because:





    • $t^2 geq 0$ and


    • $sin(phi) geq 0$ since $phi in [0,pi]$, but


    • $t cos(phi) - d < 0$ because $0 < t < rho < d$, while

    • the denominator is $geq 0$, so

    • the integrand is (zero or) negative everywhere.






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    As a mathematician, I would divide by force in the numerator and denominator by $d^3$, substitute $t/d$ by something, thus reducing to the case $d=1$. But here, let it be, we conserve the homogeneous setting as a control of the computations.





    We split the numerator, compute first
    $$
    begin{aligned}
    J_1
    &=
    int_0^rho
    dt
    int_0^pi
    frac
    {t^2sinphicdot tcosphi}
    {left[t^2sin^2phi+left(tcosphi-Dright)^2right]^{3/2}}; dphi
    \
    &=
    int_0^rho
    dt
    int_0^pi
    frac
    {t^2(-cosphi)'cdot tcosphi}
    {left[t^2-2Dtcosphi+D^2right]^{3/2}}; dphi
    \
    &qquadtext{ Substitution: }u=cos phi ,
    \
    &=
    int_0^rho
    dt
    int_{-1}^1
    frac
    {t^3; u}
    {left[t^2-2Dt;u+D^2right]^{3/2}}; du
    \
    &qquadtext{ Substitution (for $u$, fixed $t$) of the radical }v=sqrt{t^2-2Dt;u+D^2} ,
    \
    &qquad u=frac 1{2Dt}(t^2+D^2-v^2) , du=-frac v{Dt}; dv\ ,
    \
    &=
    -
    int_0^rho
    dt
    int_{sqrt{t^2+2Dt+D^2}}^{sqrt{t^2-2Dt+D^2}}
    frac
    {t^3; frac 1{2Dt}(t^2+D^2-v^2)}
    {v^3}; frac v{Dt}; dv
    \
    &=
    int_0^rho
    t;dt
    int_{D-t}^{D+t}
    frac 1{2D^2}
    cdot
    frac {t^2+D^2-v^2}
    {v^2}; dv
    \
    &=
    int_0^rho
    t;dt
    ;frac 1{2D^2}
    left[
    -(t^2+D^2)frac 1v
    -1
    right]_{v=D-t}^{v=D+t}
    \
    &=
    int_0^rho
    dt
    ;frac t{2D^2}
    left[
    (t^2+D^2)left(frac 1{D-t}-frac 1{D+t}right)
    -
    2t
    right]
    \
    &=
    int_0^rho
    dt
    left[
    frac D{D+t}
    +frac D{D-t}
    -2frac{D^2+t^2}{D^2}
    right]
    \
    &=
    Dlnfrac {D+t}{D-t}
    -
    2rholeft(1+frac {rho^2}{3D^2}right)
    .
    end{aligned}
    $$

    Computer check for $D=2$, $rho=1$ (pari/gp code):



    ? D=2; r=1;
    ? intnum(t=0,r, intnum(s=0, Pi, t^2*sin(s)*t*cos(s) / (t^2-2*t*D*cos(s)+D^2)^(3/2) ) )
    %19 = 0.030557910669552716123823807178384744388
    ? D*log( (D+r)/(D-r) ) - 2*r*(1+r^2/3/D^2)
    %20 = 0.030557910669552716123823807178384742634
    ?
    ? D=223; r=101;
    ? intnum(t=0,r, intnum(s=0, Pi, t^2*sin(s)*t*cos(s) / (t^2-2*t*D*cos(s)+D^2)^(3/2) ) )
    %22 = 1.9969022076015148346071622544965636670
    ? D*log( (D+r)/(D-r) ) - 2*r*(1+r^2/3/D^2)
    %23 = 1.9969022076015148346071622544965636629




    The other integral. I will integrate here first w.r.t. $t$.



    $$
    begin{aligned}
    J_2
    &=
    -D
    int_0^pi
    dphi
    int_0^rho
    frac
    {t^2}
    {left[(t-Dcosphi)^2+Dsin^2phiright]^{3/2}}
    ; dt
    \
    &qquadtext{ and we consider separately (without the factor $-D$)}
    \
    J_2(phi)
    &=
    int_0^rho
    frac
    {t^2}
    {left[(t-Dcosphi)^2+Dsin^2phiright]^{3/2}}
    ; dt
    \
    &=
    int_{0-Dcosphi}^{rho-Dcosphi}
    frac
    {(u+Dcosphi)^2}
    {(u^2+a^2)^{3/2}}
    ; du ,qquad a:= Dsinphi
    .
    \
    &qquad
    text{ Now the integrals can be computed}
    \
    int frac{u^2}
    {(u^2+a^2)^{3/2}}
    ; dt
    &=
    -frac t{(u^2+a^2)^{1/2}}+operatorname{arcsinh} frac ta+C ,
    \
    int frac{u}
    {(u^2+a^2)^{3/2}}
    ; dt
    &=
    -frac 1{(u^2+a^2)^{1/2}}+C ,
    \
    int frac{1}
    {(u^2+a^2)^{3/2}}
    ; dt
    &=
    -frac {a^2;u}{(u^2+a^2)^{1/2}}+C ,
    end{aligned}
    $$

    and the computation goes on.
    If my calculus is ok, then
    $$
    begin{aligned}
    J_2(phi)
    &=
    int_0^pi
    dphi;
    Bigg[
    operatorname{arcsinh} frac{t-Dcos phi}{Dsinphi}
    \&qquadqquadqquad+
    frac{t-Dcosphi}{(t^2-2Dtcosphi+D^2)^{1/2}sin^2phi}
    \&qquadqquadqquadqquadqquadqquad
    +frac2{(t^2-2Dtcosphi+D^2)^{1/2}}
    Bigg]_0^rho .
    end{aligned}
    $$

    I have to submit, hope this is helpful to check with the own computations.
    I'll be back, but typing kills a lot of time.






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      Shouldn't the integrand in $J_2$ be $t^2 sin phi/((t - D cos phi)^2 + D^2 sin^2 phi)^{3/2}$?
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      18 hours ago
















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    $begingroup$

    As a mathematician, I would divide by force in the numerator and denominator by $d^3$, substitute $t/d$ by something, thus reducing to the case $d=1$. But here, let it be, we conserve the homogeneous setting as a control of the computations.





    We split the numerator, compute first
    $$
    begin{aligned}
    J_1
    &=
    int_0^rho
    dt
    int_0^pi
    frac
    {t^2sinphicdot tcosphi}
    {left[t^2sin^2phi+left(tcosphi-Dright)^2right]^{3/2}}; dphi
    \
    &=
    int_0^rho
    dt
    int_0^pi
    frac
    {t^2(-cosphi)'cdot tcosphi}
    {left[t^2-2Dtcosphi+D^2right]^{3/2}}; dphi
    \
    &qquadtext{ Substitution: }u=cos phi ,
    \
    &=
    int_0^rho
    dt
    int_{-1}^1
    frac
    {t^3; u}
    {left[t^2-2Dt;u+D^2right]^{3/2}}; du
    \
    &qquadtext{ Substitution (for $u$, fixed $t$) of the radical }v=sqrt{t^2-2Dt;u+D^2} ,
    \
    &qquad u=frac 1{2Dt}(t^2+D^2-v^2) , du=-frac v{Dt}; dv\ ,
    \
    &=
    -
    int_0^rho
    dt
    int_{sqrt{t^2+2Dt+D^2}}^{sqrt{t^2-2Dt+D^2}}
    frac
    {t^3; frac 1{2Dt}(t^2+D^2-v^2)}
    {v^3}; frac v{Dt}; dv
    \
    &=
    int_0^rho
    t;dt
    int_{D-t}^{D+t}
    frac 1{2D^2}
    cdot
    frac {t^2+D^2-v^2}
    {v^2}; dv
    \
    &=
    int_0^rho
    t;dt
    ;frac 1{2D^2}
    left[
    -(t^2+D^2)frac 1v
    -1
    right]_{v=D-t}^{v=D+t}
    \
    &=
    int_0^rho
    dt
    ;frac t{2D^2}
    left[
    (t^2+D^2)left(frac 1{D-t}-frac 1{D+t}right)
    -
    2t
    right]
    \
    &=
    int_0^rho
    dt
    left[
    frac D{D+t}
    +frac D{D-t}
    -2frac{D^2+t^2}{D^2}
    right]
    \
    &=
    Dlnfrac {D+t}{D-t}
    -
    2rholeft(1+frac {rho^2}{3D^2}right)
    .
    end{aligned}
    $$

    Computer check for $D=2$, $rho=1$ (pari/gp code):



    ? D=2; r=1;
    ? intnum(t=0,r, intnum(s=0, Pi, t^2*sin(s)*t*cos(s) / (t^2-2*t*D*cos(s)+D^2)^(3/2) ) )
    %19 = 0.030557910669552716123823807178384744388
    ? D*log( (D+r)/(D-r) ) - 2*r*(1+r^2/3/D^2)
    %20 = 0.030557910669552716123823807178384742634
    ?
    ? D=223; r=101;
    ? intnum(t=0,r, intnum(s=0, Pi, t^2*sin(s)*t*cos(s) / (t^2-2*t*D*cos(s)+D^2)^(3/2) ) )
    %22 = 1.9969022076015148346071622544965636670
    ? D*log( (D+r)/(D-r) ) - 2*r*(1+r^2/3/D^2)
    %23 = 1.9969022076015148346071622544965636629




    The other integral. I will integrate here first w.r.t. $t$.



    $$
    begin{aligned}
    J_2
    &=
    -D
    int_0^pi
    dphi
    int_0^rho
    frac
    {t^2}
    {left[(t-Dcosphi)^2+Dsin^2phiright]^{3/2}}
    ; dt
    \
    &qquadtext{ and we consider separately (without the factor $-D$)}
    \
    J_2(phi)
    &=
    int_0^rho
    frac
    {t^2}
    {left[(t-Dcosphi)^2+Dsin^2phiright]^{3/2}}
    ; dt
    \
    &=
    int_{0-Dcosphi}^{rho-Dcosphi}
    frac
    {(u+Dcosphi)^2}
    {(u^2+a^2)^{3/2}}
    ; du ,qquad a:= Dsinphi
    .
    \
    &qquad
    text{ Now the integrals can be computed}
    \
    int frac{u^2}
    {(u^2+a^2)^{3/2}}
    ; dt
    &=
    -frac t{(u^2+a^2)^{1/2}}+operatorname{arcsinh} frac ta+C ,
    \
    int frac{u}
    {(u^2+a^2)^{3/2}}
    ; dt
    &=
    -frac 1{(u^2+a^2)^{1/2}}+C ,
    \
    int frac{1}
    {(u^2+a^2)^{3/2}}
    ; dt
    &=
    -frac {a^2;u}{(u^2+a^2)^{1/2}}+C ,
    end{aligned}
    $$

    and the computation goes on.
    If my calculus is ok, then
    $$
    begin{aligned}
    J_2(phi)
    &=
    int_0^pi
    dphi;
    Bigg[
    operatorname{arcsinh} frac{t-Dcos phi}{Dsinphi}
    \&qquadqquadqquad+
    frac{t-Dcosphi}{(t^2-2Dtcosphi+D^2)^{1/2}sin^2phi}
    \&qquadqquadqquadqquadqquadqquad
    +frac2{(t^2-2Dtcosphi+D^2)^{1/2}}
    Bigg]_0^rho .
    end{aligned}
    $$

    I have to submit, hope this is helpful to check with the own computations.
    I'll be back, but typing kills a lot of time.






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      Sorry, been away. I've added a bounty of +100 to the question. Your answer is fantastic and I'll award one within a week. However, I'm leaving it up to attract other answers as well. Thanks for all the effort
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      20 hours ago






    • 1




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      Shouldn't the integrand in $J_2$ be $t^2 sin phi/((t - D cos phi)^2 + D^2 sin^2 phi)^{3/2}$?
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      18 hours ago














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    As a mathematician, I would divide by force in the numerator and denominator by $d^3$, substitute $t/d$ by something, thus reducing to the case $d=1$. But here, let it be, we conserve the homogeneous setting as a control of the computations.





    We split the numerator, compute first
    $$
    begin{aligned}
    J_1
    &=
    int_0^rho
    dt
    int_0^pi
    frac
    {t^2sinphicdot tcosphi}
    {left[t^2sin^2phi+left(tcosphi-Dright)^2right]^{3/2}}; dphi
    \
    &=
    int_0^rho
    dt
    int_0^pi
    frac
    {t^2(-cosphi)'cdot tcosphi}
    {left[t^2-2Dtcosphi+D^2right]^{3/2}}; dphi
    \
    &qquadtext{ Substitution: }u=cos phi ,
    \
    &=
    int_0^rho
    dt
    int_{-1}^1
    frac
    {t^3; u}
    {left[t^2-2Dt;u+D^2right]^{3/2}}; du
    \
    &qquadtext{ Substitution (for $u$, fixed $t$) of the radical }v=sqrt{t^2-2Dt;u+D^2} ,
    \
    &qquad u=frac 1{2Dt}(t^2+D^2-v^2) , du=-frac v{Dt}; dv\ ,
    \
    &=
    -
    int_0^rho
    dt
    int_{sqrt{t^2+2Dt+D^2}}^{sqrt{t^2-2Dt+D^2}}
    frac
    {t^3; frac 1{2Dt}(t^2+D^2-v^2)}
    {v^3}; frac v{Dt}; dv
    \
    &=
    int_0^rho
    t;dt
    int_{D-t}^{D+t}
    frac 1{2D^2}
    cdot
    frac {t^2+D^2-v^2}
    {v^2}; dv
    \
    &=
    int_0^rho
    t;dt
    ;frac 1{2D^2}
    left[
    -(t^2+D^2)frac 1v
    -1
    right]_{v=D-t}^{v=D+t}
    \
    &=
    int_0^rho
    dt
    ;frac t{2D^2}
    left[
    (t^2+D^2)left(frac 1{D-t}-frac 1{D+t}right)
    -
    2t
    right]
    \
    &=
    int_0^rho
    dt
    left[
    frac D{D+t}
    +frac D{D-t}
    -2frac{D^2+t^2}{D^2}
    right]
    \
    &=
    Dlnfrac {D+t}{D-t}
    -
    2rholeft(1+frac {rho^2}{3D^2}right)
    .
    end{aligned}
    $$

    Computer check for $D=2$, $rho=1$ (pari/gp code):



    ? D=2; r=1;
    ? intnum(t=0,r, intnum(s=0, Pi, t^2*sin(s)*t*cos(s) / (t^2-2*t*D*cos(s)+D^2)^(3/2) ) )
    %19 = 0.030557910669552716123823807178384744388
    ? D*log( (D+r)/(D-r) ) - 2*r*(1+r^2/3/D^2)
    %20 = 0.030557910669552716123823807178384742634
    ?
    ? D=223; r=101;
    ? intnum(t=0,r, intnum(s=0, Pi, t^2*sin(s)*t*cos(s) / (t^2-2*t*D*cos(s)+D^2)^(3/2) ) )
    %22 = 1.9969022076015148346071622544965636670
    ? D*log( (D+r)/(D-r) ) - 2*r*(1+r^2/3/D^2)
    %23 = 1.9969022076015148346071622544965636629




    The other integral. I will integrate here first w.r.t. $t$.



    $$
    begin{aligned}
    J_2
    &=
    -D
    int_0^pi
    dphi
    int_0^rho
    frac
    {t^2}
    {left[(t-Dcosphi)^2+Dsin^2phiright]^{3/2}}
    ; dt
    \
    &qquadtext{ and we consider separately (without the factor $-D$)}
    \
    J_2(phi)
    &=
    int_0^rho
    frac
    {t^2}
    {left[(t-Dcosphi)^2+Dsin^2phiright]^{3/2}}
    ; dt
    \
    &=
    int_{0-Dcosphi}^{rho-Dcosphi}
    frac
    {(u+Dcosphi)^2}
    {(u^2+a^2)^{3/2}}
    ; du ,qquad a:= Dsinphi
    .
    \
    &qquad
    text{ Now the integrals can be computed}
    \
    int frac{u^2}
    {(u^2+a^2)^{3/2}}
    ; dt
    &=
    -frac t{(u^2+a^2)^{1/2}}+operatorname{arcsinh} frac ta+C ,
    \
    int frac{u}
    {(u^2+a^2)^{3/2}}
    ; dt
    &=
    -frac 1{(u^2+a^2)^{1/2}}+C ,
    \
    int frac{1}
    {(u^2+a^2)^{3/2}}
    ; dt
    &=
    -frac {a^2;u}{(u^2+a^2)^{1/2}}+C ,
    end{aligned}
    $$

    and the computation goes on.
    If my calculus is ok, then
    $$
    begin{aligned}
    J_2(phi)
    &=
    int_0^pi
    dphi;
    Bigg[
    operatorname{arcsinh} frac{t-Dcos phi}{Dsinphi}
    \&qquadqquadqquad+
    frac{t-Dcosphi}{(t^2-2Dtcosphi+D^2)^{1/2}sin^2phi}
    \&qquadqquadqquadqquadqquadqquad
    +frac2{(t^2-2Dtcosphi+D^2)^{1/2}}
    Bigg]_0^rho .
    end{aligned}
    $$

    I have to submit, hope this is helpful to check with the own computations.
    I'll be back, but typing kills a lot of time.






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    As a mathematician, I would divide by force in the numerator and denominator by $d^3$, substitute $t/d$ by something, thus reducing to the case $d=1$. But here, let it be, we conserve the homogeneous setting as a control of the computations.





    We split the numerator, compute first
    $$
    begin{aligned}
    J_1
    &=
    int_0^rho
    dt
    int_0^pi
    frac
    {t^2sinphicdot tcosphi}
    {left[t^2sin^2phi+left(tcosphi-Dright)^2right]^{3/2}}; dphi
    \
    &=
    int_0^rho
    dt
    int_0^pi
    frac
    {t^2(-cosphi)'cdot tcosphi}
    {left[t^2-2Dtcosphi+D^2right]^{3/2}}; dphi
    \
    &qquadtext{ Substitution: }u=cos phi ,
    \
    &=
    int_0^rho
    dt
    int_{-1}^1
    frac
    {t^3; u}
    {left[t^2-2Dt;u+D^2right]^{3/2}}; du
    \
    &qquadtext{ Substitution (for $u$, fixed $t$) of the radical }v=sqrt{t^2-2Dt;u+D^2} ,
    \
    &qquad u=frac 1{2Dt}(t^2+D^2-v^2) , du=-frac v{Dt}; dv\ ,
    \
    &=
    -
    int_0^rho
    dt
    int_{sqrt{t^2+2Dt+D^2}}^{sqrt{t^2-2Dt+D^2}}
    frac
    {t^3; frac 1{2Dt}(t^2+D^2-v^2)}
    {v^3}; frac v{Dt}; dv
    \
    &=
    int_0^rho
    t;dt
    int_{D-t}^{D+t}
    frac 1{2D^2}
    cdot
    frac {t^2+D^2-v^2}
    {v^2}; dv
    \
    &=
    int_0^rho
    t;dt
    ;frac 1{2D^2}
    left[
    -(t^2+D^2)frac 1v
    -1
    right]_{v=D-t}^{v=D+t}
    \
    &=
    int_0^rho
    dt
    ;frac t{2D^2}
    left[
    (t^2+D^2)left(frac 1{D-t}-frac 1{D+t}right)
    -
    2t
    right]
    \
    &=
    int_0^rho
    dt
    left[
    frac D{D+t}
    +frac D{D-t}
    -2frac{D^2+t^2}{D^2}
    right]
    \
    &=
    Dlnfrac {D+t}{D-t}
    -
    2rholeft(1+frac {rho^2}{3D^2}right)
    .
    end{aligned}
    $$

    Computer check for $D=2$, $rho=1$ (pari/gp code):



    ? D=2; r=1;
    ? intnum(t=0,r, intnum(s=0, Pi, t^2*sin(s)*t*cos(s) / (t^2-2*t*D*cos(s)+D^2)^(3/2) ) )
    %19 = 0.030557910669552716123823807178384744388
    ? D*log( (D+r)/(D-r) ) - 2*r*(1+r^2/3/D^2)
    %20 = 0.030557910669552716123823807178384742634
    ?
    ? D=223; r=101;
    ? intnum(t=0,r, intnum(s=0, Pi, t^2*sin(s)*t*cos(s) / (t^2-2*t*D*cos(s)+D^2)^(3/2) ) )
    %22 = 1.9969022076015148346071622544965636670
    ? D*log( (D+r)/(D-r) ) - 2*r*(1+r^2/3/D^2)
    %23 = 1.9969022076015148346071622544965636629




    The other integral. I will integrate here first w.r.t. $t$.



    $$
    begin{aligned}
    J_2
    &=
    -D
    int_0^pi
    dphi
    int_0^rho
    frac
    {t^2}
    {left[(t-Dcosphi)^2+Dsin^2phiright]^{3/2}}
    ; dt
    \
    &qquadtext{ and we consider separately (without the factor $-D$)}
    \
    J_2(phi)
    &=
    int_0^rho
    frac
    {t^2}
    {left[(t-Dcosphi)^2+Dsin^2phiright]^{3/2}}
    ; dt
    \
    &=
    int_{0-Dcosphi}^{rho-Dcosphi}
    frac
    {(u+Dcosphi)^2}
    {(u^2+a^2)^{3/2}}
    ; du ,qquad a:= Dsinphi
    .
    \
    &qquad
    text{ Now the integrals can be computed}
    \
    int frac{u^2}
    {(u^2+a^2)^{3/2}}
    ; dt
    &=
    -frac t{(u^2+a^2)^{1/2}}+operatorname{arcsinh} frac ta+C ,
    \
    int frac{u}
    {(u^2+a^2)^{3/2}}
    ; dt
    &=
    -frac 1{(u^2+a^2)^{1/2}}+C ,
    \
    int frac{1}
    {(u^2+a^2)^{3/2}}
    ; dt
    &=
    -frac {a^2;u}{(u^2+a^2)^{1/2}}+C ,
    end{aligned}
    $$

    and the computation goes on.
    If my calculus is ok, then
    $$
    begin{aligned}
    J_2(phi)
    &=
    int_0^pi
    dphi;
    Bigg[
    operatorname{arcsinh} frac{t-Dcos phi}{Dsinphi}
    \&qquadqquadqquad+
    frac{t-Dcosphi}{(t^2-2Dtcosphi+D^2)^{1/2}sin^2phi}
    \&qquadqquadqquadqquadqquadqquad
    +frac2{(t^2-2Dtcosphi+D^2)^{1/2}}
    Bigg]_0^rho .
    end{aligned}
    $$

    I have to submit, hope this is helpful to check with the own computations.
    I'll be back, but typing kills a lot of time.







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      Sorry, been away. I've added a bounty of +100 to the question. Your answer is fantastic and I'll award one within a week. However, I'm leaving it up to attract other answers as well. Thanks for all the effort
      $endgroup$
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      20 hours ago






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      Shouldn't the integrand in $J_2$ be $t^2 sin phi/((t - D cos phi)^2 + D^2 sin^2 phi)^{3/2}$?
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      18 hours ago


















    • $begingroup$
      Sorry, been away. I've added a bounty of +100 to the question. Your answer is fantastic and I'll award one within a week. However, I'm leaving it up to attract other answers as well. Thanks for all the effort
      $endgroup$
      – Lanier Freeman
      20 hours ago






    • 1




      $begingroup$
      Shouldn't the integrand in $J_2$ be $t^2 sin phi/((t - D cos phi)^2 + D^2 sin^2 phi)^{3/2}$?
      $endgroup$
      – Maxim
      18 hours ago
















    $begingroup$
    Sorry, been away. I've added a bounty of +100 to the question. Your answer is fantastic and I'll award one within a week. However, I'm leaving it up to attract other answers as well. Thanks for all the effort
    $endgroup$
    – Lanier Freeman
    20 hours ago




    $begingroup$
    Sorry, been away. I've added a bounty of +100 to the question. Your answer is fantastic and I'll award one within a week. However, I'm leaving it up to attract other answers as well. Thanks for all the effort
    $endgroup$
    – Lanier Freeman
    20 hours ago




    1




    1




    $begingroup$
    Shouldn't the integrand in $J_2$ be $t^2 sin phi/((t - D cos phi)^2 + D^2 sin^2 phi)^{3/2}$?
    $endgroup$
    – Maxim
    18 hours ago




    $begingroup$
    Shouldn't the integrand in $J_2$ be $t^2 sin phi/((t - D cos phi)^2 + D^2 sin^2 phi)^{3/2}$?
    $endgroup$
    – Maxim
    18 hours ago











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    Hint:



    With the change of variable $u=cosphi$, the integral on $phi$ becomes



    $$int_{-1}^1frac{t^2(tu-d)}{sqrt{(u-dt)^2+d^2(1-t^2)}}du.$$



    By decomposition of the numerator, you will get a term



    $$c(t)log((u-dt)^2+d^2(1-t^2))$$



    and another



    $$c'(t)arctanfrac{u-dt}{dsqrt{1-t^2}}.$$



    These terms do not simplify at the bounds of the integration interval.



    The integral on $t$ (cubic in $t$ at the denominator) is worse. I am not optimisitc about existence of a closed-form.






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      1












      $begingroup$

      Hint:



      With the change of variable $u=cosphi$, the integral on $phi$ becomes



      $$int_{-1}^1frac{t^2(tu-d)}{sqrt{(u-dt)^2+d^2(1-t^2)}}du.$$



      By decomposition of the numerator, you will get a term



      $$c(t)log((u-dt)^2+d^2(1-t^2))$$



      and another



      $$c'(t)arctanfrac{u-dt}{dsqrt{1-t^2}}.$$



      These terms do not simplify at the bounds of the integration interval.



      The integral on $t$ (cubic in $t$ at the denominator) is worse. I am not optimisitc about existence of a closed-form.






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        1












        1








        1





        $begingroup$

        Hint:



        With the change of variable $u=cosphi$, the integral on $phi$ becomes



        $$int_{-1}^1frac{t^2(tu-d)}{sqrt{(u-dt)^2+d^2(1-t^2)}}du.$$



        By decomposition of the numerator, you will get a term



        $$c(t)log((u-dt)^2+d^2(1-t^2))$$



        and another



        $$c'(t)arctanfrac{u-dt}{dsqrt{1-t^2}}.$$



        These terms do not simplify at the bounds of the integration interval.



        The integral on $t$ (cubic in $t$ at the denominator) is worse. I am not optimisitc about existence of a closed-form.






        share|cite|improve this answer









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        Hint:



        With the change of variable $u=cosphi$, the integral on $phi$ becomes



        $$int_{-1}^1frac{t^2(tu-d)}{sqrt{(u-dt)^2+d^2(1-t^2)}}du.$$



        By decomposition of the numerator, you will get a term



        $$c(t)log((u-dt)^2+d^2(1-t^2))$$



        and another



        $$c'(t)arctanfrac{u-dt}{dsqrt{1-t^2}}.$$



        These terms do not simplify at the bounds of the integration interval.



        The integral on $t$ (cubic in $t$ at the denominator) is worse. I am not optimisitc about existence of a closed-form.







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        answered 2 days ago









        Yves DaoustYves Daoust

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            $begingroup$

            begin{align*}
            &iint frac{t^2 sin(phi) (t cos(phi) - d)}{(t^2 sin^2(phi) + (t cos(phi) - d)^2)^{3/2}} ,mathrm{d}t,mathrm{d}phi \
            &= frac{sqrt{d^2 + t^2 - 2 d t cos(phi)}(d^2 - 2 t^2 - 2 d t cos(phi) - 3 d^2 cos(2 phi))}{6d^2} \
            &+ d cos(phi) lnleft(t - d cos(phi) + sqrt{d^2 + t^2 - 2 d t cos(phi)}right) sin^2(phi) text{,} end{align*}

            as one can readily verify. Then $I = frac{-2 rho^3}{3 d^2}$.



            I think for your case $1$, you mean $I propto frac{1}{d^2}$. The integral can't be positive because:





            • $t^2 geq 0$ and


            • $sin(phi) geq 0$ since $phi in [0,pi]$, but


            • $t cos(phi) - d < 0$ because $0 < t < rho < d$, while

            • the denominator is $geq 0$, so

            • the integrand is (zero or) negative everywhere.






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            • $begingroup$
              My prof said there may be a sign error so I’m not really bothered by that. Also the limit as $dtoinfty$ should lead to $1/d^2$ which I just realised and could inspire solutions and offer insight. I’ll get back within the coming days I have an exam to prepare for
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              41 mins ago
















            0












            $begingroup$

            begin{align*}
            &iint frac{t^2 sin(phi) (t cos(phi) - d)}{(t^2 sin^2(phi) + (t cos(phi) - d)^2)^{3/2}} ,mathrm{d}t,mathrm{d}phi \
            &= frac{sqrt{d^2 + t^2 - 2 d t cos(phi)}(d^2 - 2 t^2 - 2 d t cos(phi) - 3 d^2 cos(2 phi))}{6d^2} \
            &+ d cos(phi) lnleft(t - d cos(phi) + sqrt{d^2 + t^2 - 2 d t cos(phi)}right) sin^2(phi) text{,} end{align*}

            as one can readily verify. Then $I = frac{-2 rho^3}{3 d^2}$.



            I think for your case $1$, you mean $I propto frac{1}{d^2}$. The integral can't be positive because:





            • $t^2 geq 0$ and


            • $sin(phi) geq 0$ since $phi in [0,pi]$, but


            • $t cos(phi) - d < 0$ because $0 < t < rho < d$, while

            • the denominator is $geq 0$, so

            • the integrand is (zero or) negative everywhere.






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            • $begingroup$
              My prof said there may be a sign error so I’m not really bothered by that. Also the limit as $dtoinfty$ should lead to $1/d^2$ which I just realised and could inspire solutions and offer insight. I’ll get back within the coming days I have an exam to prepare for
              $endgroup$
              – Lanier Freeman
              41 mins ago














            0












            0








            0





            $begingroup$

            begin{align*}
            &iint frac{t^2 sin(phi) (t cos(phi) - d)}{(t^2 sin^2(phi) + (t cos(phi) - d)^2)^{3/2}} ,mathrm{d}t,mathrm{d}phi \
            &= frac{sqrt{d^2 + t^2 - 2 d t cos(phi)}(d^2 - 2 t^2 - 2 d t cos(phi) - 3 d^2 cos(2 phi))}{6d^2} \
            &+ d cos(phi) lnleft(t - d cos(phi) + sqrt{d^2 + t^2 - 2 d t cos(phi)}right) sin^2(phi) text{,} end{align*}

            as one can readily verify. Then $I = frac{-2 rho^3}{3 d^2}$.



            I think for your case $1$, you mean $I propto frac{1}{d^2}$. The integral can't be positive because:





            • $t^2 geq 0$ and


            • $sin(phi) geq 0$ since $phi in [0,pi]$, but


            • $t cos(phi) - d < 0$ because $0 < t < rho < d$, while

            • the denominator is $geq 0$, so

            • the integrand is (zero or) negative everywhere.






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            begin{align*}
            &iint frac{t^2 sin(phi) (t cos(phi) - d)}{(t^2 sin^2(phi) + (t cos(phi) - d)^2)^{3/2}} ,mathrm{d}t,mathrm{d}phi \
            &= frac{sqrt{d^2 + t^2 - 2 d t cos(phi)}(d^2 - 2 t^2 - 2 d t cos(phi) - 3 d^2 cos(2 phi))}{6d^2} \
            &+ d cos(phi) lnleft(t - d cos(phi) + sqrt{d^2 + t^2 - 2 d t cos(phi)}right) sin^2(phi) text{,} end{align*}

            as one can readily verify. Then $I = frac{-2 rho^3}{3 d^2}$.



            I think for your case $1$, you mean $I propto frac{1}{d^2}$. The integral can't be positive because:





            • $t^2 geq 0$ and


            • $sin(phi) geq 0$ since $phi in [0,pi]$, but


            • $t cos(phi) - d < 0$ because $0 < t < rho < d$, while

            • the denominator is $geq 0$, so

            • the integrand is (zero or) negative everywhere.







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            edited 20 hours ago

























            answered 20 hours ago









            Eric TowersEric Towers

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            • $begingroup$
              My prof said there may be a sign error so I’m not really bothered by that. Also the limit as $dtoinfty$ should lead to $1/d^2$ which I just realised and could inspire solutions and offer insight. I’ll get back within the coming days I have an exam to prepare for
              $endgroup$
              – Lanier Freeman
              41 mins ago


















            • $begingroup$
              My prof said there may be a sign error so I’m not really bothered by that. Also the limit as $dtoinfty$ should lead to $1/d^2$ which I just realised and could inspire solutions and offer insight. I’ll get back within the coming days I have an exam to prepare for
              $endgroup$
              – Lanier Freeman
              41 mins ago
















            $begingroup$
            My prof said there may be a sign error so I’m not really bothered by that. Also the limit as $dtoinfty$ should lead to $1/d^2$ which I just realised and could inspire solutions and offer insight. I’ll get back within the coming days I have an exam to prepare for
            $endgroup$
            – Lanier Freeman
            41 mins ago




            $begingroup$
            My prof said there may be a sign error so I’m not really bothered by that. Also the limit as $dtoinfty$ should lead to $1/d^2$ which I just realised and could inspire solutions and offer insight. I’ll get back within the coming days I have an exam to prepare for
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            41 mins ago


















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